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Emme Fox's avatar

Dearest Kyle! Your soulful piece of writing brought tears to my eyes as it brought back memories of my late husband's own suicide which happened 29 years ago. I was 26 and my daughter and son where 6 and 4. Both my children experienced suicidal ideation in their own unique way.

If you are ever interested, as an "elder-in-training", a title bestowed to me by Fern during Ways of the Wild, I am willing to share my story and wisdom garnered from that experience. Reach out to me anytime.

Alexandra Thomson's avatar

So many of your quotes come from men and I know you are trying to understand the experience of men, so please forgive if this is not relevant. One thing I always wondered about great philosophers and thinkers is how did they eat dinner? Did they grow it, cook it? How did they have time to think so much and reflect on the meaning of life? After giving birth, my babies were full time jobs. I remember both the blissfulness of being in the moment and also my awareness that I had temporarily lost my capacities to think or reflect because I had no time for that. The meaning of life was pretty clear in those moments though: Feed the babies! One of my Elders said that after the Residential Schools her observation was that the men's spirits had been more broken. Women had their babies and they talked more with each other. My 26 year old son currently sounds a lot like you. He thinks the system is rigged. He is doomed to 40 hours a week and a life of drudgery. He goes tree planting and life makes sense for a while. But he recently said he is suicidal because he doesn't want to join the rat race and sees no way around it.

He says he is not actively considering it, but he likes having suicide as a choice. His dad made that choice. He had no peace when he was using and no peace when he was trying to get clean - because of memories. He was tired. After me trying to keep him in this world in so many ways, I finally let go and respected his capacity to choose. For me, life in service, and creativity, are the only ways I can make sense of things. I have a sensitive friend who is relentlessly in full grief for what is happening in the world. This makes him somewhat hard to be around because he can't see what's in front of him. Maybe a beautiful butterfly. I appreciate all your efforts to connect, to integrate, communicate and share your experience. I hope my son can one day make it to some of the men's workshops you write about. I hope he finds his way.

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